Gunnar, etal. Well, I've made up my mind. I'll install Ringlink as time allows and move my webrings to my server. I considered asking my ringmembers what they think but THEY don't have to maintain the ring(s), nor do they maintain their records. I know getting them to change their code will be a REAL uphill battle. I took over one ring 6 months ago and I still have sites that have the OLD "ring home" address. Registration name address. . . Its been suggested to me that the DOMAIN own its NAME. Then if you want to sell it you don't have to go through a ton of paperwork. I recently bought two names and now I have to get notarized documents to change the registration. AND if dealing with Network Solutions the registrations fees have to be paid as if its a NEW registration.. . :( Today I downloaded a program called Web-Ring Verifier 2.1. Anyone have any experiance with it? Any problems with using it with Ringlink??? Unless there is a way to suspend mail on this list I'll be removing myself but I'll still be around! Jock Dempsey webmaster@anvilfire.com