Are you using a full path to call your images in your customized HTML Fragment? In order for your image to show in the ring management you have to have a complete path to your image such as http://yoursite.virtualave.net/images/ringfragment.jpg By putting this in your customized fragment code, you would be allowing your ring members to call the image from your server instead of making them download the image and upload onto their server. Most prefer to have the member copy the image, and then your fragment would be ringfragment.jpg, however in this instance, your image won't show in management, UNLESS you upload the image itself into your folder that holds your cgi files, and then the image itself would show without you having to include a complete path in your customized HTML. Hope that helps! Fawnna -----Original Message----- From: owner-ringlinklist@1-host.com [mailto:owner-ringlinklist@1-host.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Ginger Woodcock Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:19 PM To: ringlinklist@gunnar.cc Cc: LMckinney Subject: [ringlinklist] question about images I've uploaded my graphic to my virtualave file via the virtualave ftp service. I still don't see my picture when I click on preview. What am I doing wrong. I'm ready for everyone to move on over, but don't want to before I know for sure everything is working right.. ginger