Ginger wrote: >>image, and then your fragment would be ringfragment.jpg, however in this >>instance, your image won't show in management, UNLESS you upload the image >>itself into your folder that holds your cgi files, and then the image itself >>would show without you having to include a complete path in your customized >>HTML. >Are you saying that there is a way for them to get the frag and the graphic >at one fell swoop. No, the user must copy the image seperately. Most do it by right clicking on your sample and saving, then loading onto their server. If you prefer NOT to be serving images every time one of your member sites get a hit then you need to use the short path (just the file) and give your members instructions to copy the image. In this case you want to be sure your image name makes sense like MYringlogo.jpg. Jock D. ringmaster@anvilfire.com