>>Each Ring can have its style sheet edited in the ring setup or globaly (all >>rings) by changing .pl files for each form. However, the ring admin style >>sheets are built into the gentools.pl file and SOME of this carries over into >>the site and ring admin pages. >>To edit these pages you will have to edit lib/gentools.pl, (tricky). > Right, I changed all instances in the gentools.pm file, and all the "first" > pages going in are fine and in the colors I specified, but once logged into > the system, the default colors are still there, I couldn't figure out > exactly where those color settings were hidden - navy, silver, and blue. I'm still exploring some of these. However, much of it needs to be handled by Gunnar. As I mentioned, many of these variables are hard coded into the template and CGI files. You can edit them but then updates will be difficult. Ringlink is a work in progress. Although many of us would like to see more global customization of colors there are more important needs. My list is as follows (from the current list): 1) Auto-assigning of site ID numbers 2) Statistics 3) Reordering tool At that point I feel that Ringlink's tools would be as good as Webring's a year ago. A "ring checker" is listed but I am beta testing a product that does a pretty decent job. Although this type thing can be run from your server and on an automated schedule it works well for me to run one from my home PC. I've asked the author to look at importing Ringlink data which would make the product very easy to use. After having run Web-Ring checker several times I've realized it is a complicated task. Many pages are burried in frames, have redirects, are generated by CGI and Javascript. Then there are timeouts and network errors. All this before you get to the actual task. I'd rather see Gunnar improving the rest of the system rather than starting a new project. Sorry I haven't helped much on the original question. How about doing a Finder search looking for the color names (and number codes) in *.pl and *.pm files? Jock D.