Jock Dempsey wrote: > > A distributed system ... has the disadvantage of not having a > central organization that makes sense of all the rings. > ... > To become a STRONG system there needs to be a distributed directory > system. System? Makes sense? Strong? Ringlink is a software, and the different installations don't constitute one system. That has never been the aim with it. And since there is no such system, it can't be neither strong nor weak. All the resources on Internet "makes sense" by the different search facilities and directories available. As regards rings, we know that WebRing has a directory, and that RingSurf is building a directory. But is it really that important to combine ring hosting services (or ring management software) with directories? Personally I doubt it. The strength of a webring, as well as a ring hosting system, depends on how successful the sites in it are in promoting themselves. My own ring has been rather successfull in terms of number of sites and traffic, but I'm sure that the WebRing directory has very little to do with that success. Other ringmasters have reported similar experiences as regards the value of the WebRing directory. How do people look for information on the Internet? I can't speak for others, but despite the fact that I'm a ringmaster, I (almost) never go to any webring directory to look for sites on a specific topic. Instead I use the general search engines and directories. In my opinion, the ring directories are all too small. I also know that there are negative "attitudes" towards webrings in general, and that many high quality sites would never join a webring. So I don't think that all the efforts, that would be needed to build a central directory of Ringlink rings, would be worthwhile. Pete's systems directory and different rings of hosts/rings of rings - built on voluntary submissions - might be valuable resources to help promote the Ringlink hosts and rings. But the general search engines and directories are much more important channels. / Gunnar