While going thru OLD email, I discovered this posting from ringmaster-curio >>>You will notice that the Ringlink list page always begins with the site that you call the list from--Webring never did get that right. True. They still haven't. The current list (hub) page starts with the "next" site causing webmasters who do not know this to scroll thru the entire list looking for their entry (instead of going to the bottom of the "previous" page). James S. Huggins