Ok. I misunderstood the system and did not realize that the two levels listed would have third levels below. I thought that the two levels listed would be the only levels and all rings would be in one of those. BTW . . . one thing I DISLIKE about the Y!WR categories is that rings can belong to a higher level category. Consider a category of Arts and Humanities / Literature / Fiction On the Y!WR system you can categorize your webring as Arts and Humanities or Arts and Humanities / Literature or Arts and Humanities / Literature / Fiction This really bothers me. I'd rather have all webrings at the third level, even if it is Arts and Humanities / Misc / Misc =============================================== >>>"Artists" but not "Art"? "Photography" but not "Photographers"? Should the index be the art or the artist? Ok I agree.. let's try this... Art - as a subcategory with lower level categories to added. Arts and Humanities/Art/ Arts and Humanities/Art/Artists Arts and Humanities/Art/Organizations Very nice. I'm understanding better now. =============================================== Business and Economy · Companies · E-Commerce · Employment · International · Investments · Real Estate · Other >>>What is the difference between "Companies" and "Other"? Other was for a topics that did not fit into the listed subcategories such as MLM Programs or anything thing else that I might have missed as being a popular sub category. We may want to standardize on either "other" or "misc" =============================================== Entertainment Books and Magazines · Cartoons , Comics and Animation · Movies · Music · People · TV · Other >>>I'd separate books and magazines. I would separate comics and animation. I note that music appears as a subcategory in both Entertainment and in Arts and Humanities. Not necessarily wrong, but it may be confusing. Should one of the subcategories just be a reference to the other?<<<<< As far as books and magazines go there did not seem to be enough rings to warrant separate categories in either the Y! directory or the RS directory I haven't check Bravenets Directory in a long time. But I think that we can use the number of rings listed in their categories to give us a guide to work with. As I said I would want the categories in the directory to be coherent and useful but only as large as we need. But then again I could be wrong, it may be better to have to many categories in the beginning then to have to re-categorize and move rings later. I hadn't consider the "quantity" as a factor. Good thought. ======================================= Society and Culture · Alternative · Charity · Civil Rights · Government · History · Holidays and Observances · Issues · Military · Nature and the Environment · Organizations · Regional · Religion · Other >>>Law? Cyberlaw? Privacy? Wouldn't Privacy be under Issues?? Society and Culture Society and Culture/Issues/ Society and Culture/Issues/Privacy Could we combine Law and Cyberlaw and use it as top level category? Yes. Agreed on both. Again, didn't realize there would be third level groups. James S. Huggins